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	<title>Comments on: Kneejerking the Supreme Court Gun Ruling</title>
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		<title>By: Here and There</title>
		<link>http://www.hereandthereblog.com/2008/06/26/kneejerking-the-supreme-court-gun-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-1794</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>edgefigaro,

First, thanks for commenting.

Also, thanks for reassuring me here. I&#039;ve done what I can to read up on the language Scalia used in the decision, and I see that you&#039;re right. That, on the merits of the actual finding of the court, there is &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the Wild West is upon us.

As I tried to make clear in the title of the post, this was merely a rapid-fire reaction to what the decision &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; mean, not to scholars and judges and politicians, but to people who don&#039;t follow the events of the Supreme Court, let alone know what the court is. Elitist of me? I don&#039;t really care. People are what matter here.

I&#039;m just afraid that some will abuse this ruling to their own liking. We already see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2008/06/26/national/w071830D39.DTL&amp;o=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gun-rights advocates&lt;/a&gt; outside the court, just today, with banners displaying machine guns and reading &quot;Come and take it.&quot; Shall I dismiss these people as the fringe? If so, the fringe have machine guns, and I&#039;m still not sure why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edgefigaro,</p>
<p>First, thanks for commenting.</p>
<p>Also, thanks for reassuring me here. I&#8217;ve done what I can to read up on the language Scalia used in the decision, and I see that you&#8217;re right. That, on the merits of the actual finding of the court, there is <em>nothing</em> that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the Wild West is upon us.</p>
<p>As I tried to make clear in the title of the post, this was merely a rapid-fire reaction to what the decision <em>could</em> mean, not to scholars and judges and politicians, but to people who don&#8217;t follow the events of the Supreme Court, let alone know what the court is. Elitist of me? I don&#8217;t really care. People are what matter here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just afraid that some will abuse this ruling to their own liking. We already see <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2008/06/26/national/w071830D39.DTL&#038;o=0" rel="nofollow">gun-rights advocates</a> outside the court, just today, with banners displaying machine guns and reading &#8220;Come and take it.&#8221; Shall I dismiss these people as the fringe? If so, the fringe have machine guns, and I&#8217;m still not sure why.</p>
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		<title>By: edgefigaro</title>
		<link>http://www.hereandthereblog.com/2008/06/26/kneejerking-the-supreme-court-gun-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-1793</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely baffling.  There is absolutely nothing in the decision that has anything to do with what you are afraid of.  Furthermore, there is absolutely no means of which that this ruling can have that result.  I hardly think that a 5-4 SCOTUS ruling sets a hugely sweeping precedent that will soon mandate mandatory firearm ownership.  The &#039;slippery slope&#039; argument makes no sense whatsoever.

Tell me, what is the next point in this slippery slope.  The underlying current of a slippery slope is that we are one step closer to an extreme and undesirable result, thus the fear and concern over an issue that the case doesn&#039;t even address turns into a categorical rejection of anything in the case.  

Seriously, unless your fear looks something like this sequence of events:

SCOTUS Ruling 2009:  Supreme Court strengthens 2008 Miller v DC case ruling allowing conceal and carry as a constitutional right.

SCOTUS Ruling 2012:  In a stunning decision, the supreme court struck down a wide restrictions, permits, waiting periods, and regulations on gun sales, allowing easier access for everyone to gun markets and more powerful firearms.

SCOTUS Ruling 2014:  In spite of recently increasing gun crimes, the Supreme Court has mandated that every citizen carry a gun at all times.

The point is, while the first example is plausible, however unlikely, the slippery slope is not.  It simply doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely baffling.  There is absolutely nothing in the decision that has anything to do with what you are afraid of.  Furthermore, there is absolutely no means of which that this ruling can have that result.  I hardly think that a 5-4 SCOTUS ruling sets a hugely sweeping precedent that will soon mandate mandatory firearm ownership.  The &#8217;slippery slope&#8217; argument makes no sense whatsoever.</p>
<p>Tell me, what is the next point in this slippery slope.  The underlying current of a slippery slope is that we are one step closer to an extreme and undesirable result, thus the fear and concern over an issue that the case doesn&#8217;t even address turns into a categorical rejection of anything in the case.  </p>
<p>Seriously, unless your fear looks something like this sequence of events:</p>
<p>SCOTUS Ruling 2009:  Supreme Court strengthens 2008 Miller v DC case ruling allowing conceal and carry as a constitutional right.</p>
<p>SCOTUS Ruling 2012:  In a stunning decision, the supreme court struck down a wide restrictions, permits, waiting periods, and regulations on gun sales, allowing easier access for everyone to gun markets and more powerful firearms.</p>
<p>SCOTUS Ruling 2014:  In spite of recently increasing gun crimes, the Supreme Court has mandated that every citizen carry a gun at all times.</p>
<p>The point is, while the first example is plausible, however unlikely, the slippery slope is not.  It simply doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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